remote mt

ok, here is the deal.. i have only been in my current state for a little over 4 months,, i have never before used propane (i come from the city and i am now living in the middle of hicks-ville) Anyway, when i first moved in i had almost a full tank of propane (that was sept.) in nov. i had it filled half way but because it was a sunday the delivery driver wouldn't let me pay him (i tried) the bill came and it was around $400 for the half tank that he put in (very expensive if u ask me but i have no prior propane experience. Well, it was like 2 weeks before x-mas, i have a 7 year old, and i lost my job (temp and it ended) and i couldnt find a job ANYWHERE, i sent my resume to literally 30 jobs per day and i have a business degree BUT like i said, i literally live in the middle of friggin nowhere (there is not one job in this or surrounding towns and i am not exaggerating!) the closest places that have work are Raleigh and Durham which are almost an hour and a half,, which is tough because i have to put my son on the bus in the morning and get to night school by 6 (almost impossible) BUT i am desperate and will take anything but almost every job that calls me back or interviews me tells me that my resume is great BUT that the commute is too great and they are scared that they will train me and i will leave because i am burned out and sick of the drive ok most of that wasnt really relevant but i had to vent! ok so i went to pay the bill and i was told that my landlords wife called thema nd told them that no one was allowed to porder propane for my house except her! so i told the propane company that there was no way in hell that i was paying them without a guarantee that i could get more fuel! Also i tried to get an account with them and they said i wasnt allowed that it HAD to be in my landlords name ?? wierd,, So i left and called my landlord and i told him and he said that he would fix it apparently the bill for my house and his were on the same account so he told me to just pay him and that i would be allowed to order so i called the propane company again and they said that he called and told them i could order BUT his wife said that it had to be COD! now again i was screwed because i could only afford the 400 bill NOT 400 PLUS a couple of more hundred that would have lasted a few weeks at best,,, Oh, and did i mention this house is an old farm house that has like NO insulation and cracks betweek the door frame that make it virtually impossible to keep warm? YIP it is so drafty in here that most of the time it is warmer outside and the only souse of heat is one of those old fashioned big block looking heaters wuth the pipe coming out that is in a remote corner of the house!! ok venting again, sorry.. SO i go to social services and they wound up giving me like 500 dollars worth the propane (80%) that was right before x-mas but the tank is mt again and now i have a dilemma.. i have been paying my landlord for the propane bill (not all of it yet but maybe 200) and yesterday i get a call from the propane company saying that they want money from me for the old bill!!!
wtf! i begged them for an account and was told NO, then i pay my LL and now they are saying that i still owe the bill.. i have no propane left, it is cold in my house, my LL isnt home, and other propane companies are saying that is illegal for them to fill the tank if it belongs to another company, but the tank is so old that i cant read anything on it,, also, if the LL owns it then they have to say it is ok to have it filled,, even if i pay up front.. what do i do now? i already paid the LL more than half but obviously he didnt pay the gad company and how can i be responsible for a bill when i was adamently denied an account?? so i was thinking…i need propane my dad is in town and he is smart and mechanical.. is it possible to buy some small propane tanks and transfer the propane from them into my big tank? i know it is more expensive that way, but if you think about it, repaying 400 plus getting a delivery that i have to pay cod for it and that will be like 700,, which i cant afford because of what i mentioned above plus my LL isnt going to pay me back , i know he wont,, he came complaining to me a few weeks ago that he got laid off and he is old so no one will hire him. i want to move so bad because i need to work not only for financial reasons but also if i dont soon i will go NUTS from cabin fever!! but even if i get a new place today it is unreasonable that i will be moved in in less than a week and i dont want to freeze so if i can get just enough propane to last a week or so i will be happy and i will tell my LL to keep my security deposit to pay the rest of the bill and for a new screen (my cat ripped) i dont mind taking a loss because it will literally cost me less to move than to pay the bill… does anyone know how to transfer propane> please dont say it is dangerous or illegal,, I KNOW THAT! i am just asking if it is possible

It is physically possible, but not a good idea.You connect a hose from the portable container service valve to the service valve on the storage tank.Turn the portable container upside down and elevate it above the storage tank.open both service valves. It takes a heckuva long time, but it will transfer. If you open the bleeder valve on the storage tank, that will lower the pressure in the storage tank and will help speed it up a bit, but you will be losing some fuel in the process.

It takes a lot of time and a lot of effort. You also need a special hose, which nobody is going to sell you! Propane service people would carry one to use in an emergency, but they aren't going to sell one to the public. It isn't really a safe practice for an experienced gas fitter to do, never mind a homeowner…

I would reccomend you get a portable heater and just forget that tank until you get sorted out and back on your feet.

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